I see myself as a skeptic, but I hesitate to associate myself with atheist groups. There are reasons for this.

563768_342904879141739_1630566303_nFor one, taking advice from musing velociraptors is questionable at the best of times.

I was a fan of Christopher Hitchens despite his faults, and still enjoy prominent atheists like Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins. I recognize that organized religions are detrimental to us as a species, yet it seems as though a great many vocal atheists take a sexist page from the religious handbook (arguably the very worst of religion).
I have no problem with offending people with the truth — to jar people into reality.
I think it is fantastic when Harris and Dawkins openly challenge religious doctrine and its defenders and I do not begrudge them their insistence to call into question people’s personal ‘anecdotal’ experiences (one cannot debate against such perspectives). It is important to be ‘militant’ about challenging people to communicate in a logical fashion, as worthwhile debates simply cannot exist otherwise.
That is why the seemingly inherent misogyny of the online atheist is so especially troubling.

558119_418315591586115_1109174470_n“God told me we should be together!”

A great many well-subscribed atheist Youtube personalities are very fervently anti-feminist. I realize that the only binding principle that actually unites atheists is a lack of belief in gods and that all other topics including gender, ethnic and political issues are fair game to break ranks on. However, one would think that atheists would want to distinguish ourselves from the many negative elements of religion, foremost of which are undoubtedly regarding women and gender-roles. Not so, says The Youtubes, as popular atheist uploaders such as Thunderf00t and self-titled ‘The Amazing Atheist’ demonstrate with their anti-feminist rants. They object to the idea that women (majority of the world’s population) could possibly have a unique perspective. To them, it is sexism itself to allot ‘special treatment’ to this historically (and modernly) enslaved and oppressed half of humanity. They enjoy using their magnified voice to take statements out of the context of centuries of oppression and generally projecting themselves (fat, balding white-men) as victimized BY women. Even mainstream atheist icon Richard Dawkins himself got into hot water not only dismissing but actively mocking the concerns of female atheists at a skeptic convention some years ago (as if women in ‘first-world’ countries should just shut up because women elsewhere have it worse).
Evidently, sentiments of sexism or racism are just as alive in the atheist community as they are doctrine in their religious counterparts. I could never find common-ground on the subject of dismissing basic human liberties. It is precisely because I would not that I find myself an atheist today.

391087_440066362751771_1805497146_n                                                    Is there an atheist on the recliner to the left?

But fear not, for not all is lost. Male-atheist ‘Cult of Dusty’ recently decried sexist statements on his videos in defense of fellow outspoken atheist Jaclyn Glenn. Of course, both of them share a ‘fashionable’ knee-jerk reaction against feminism while in the same breath praising equal rights. Perhaps they should take some notes from the seemingly sole shining online example: atheist Rebecca Watson?  It is clear, that even among the most open-minded (popular) atheists, there needs to be a reconciling of values between the non-believers and the rights-activists if there is to be any future of common-goal within either group.

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  1. Akriti says:

    brilliant post

  2. likamarie says:

    Well, see, it depends on how much of the entitlement these people feel. Those who want to keep women in a second class citizen level, with male minorities are somewhere in the middle of that spectrum, will use anything they can to justify that they must be better. Thing is, before they try to say they are better, while it may be the male loins that helped create the pregnancy, it was the female womb that gave birth… If it weren’t for woman, none of us would be here.

    • Try this:
      Think about your own history. Your life as an egg actually started in your mother’s developing ovary, before she was born; you were wrapped in your mother’s fetal body as it developed within your grandmother.

      After the two of you left Grandma’s womb, you enjoyed the protection of your mother’s prepubescent ovary. Then, sometime between 12 and 50 years after the two of you left your grandmother, you burst forth and were sucked by her fimbriae into the fallopian tube. You glided along the oviduct, surviving happily on the stored nutrients and genetic messages that Mom packed for you.

      Then, at some point, your father spent a few minutes close by, but then left. A little while later, you encountered some very odd tiny cells that he had shed. They did not merge with you, or give you any cell membranes or nutrients — just an infinitesimally small packet of DNA, less than one-millionth of your mass.

      Over the next nine months, you stole minerals from your mother’s bones and oxygen from her blood, and you received all your nutrition, energy and immune protection from her. By the time you were born your mother had contributed six to eight pounds of your weight. Then as a parting gift, she swathed you in billions of bacteria from her birth canal and groin that continue to protect your skin, digestive system and general health. In contrast, your father’s 3.3 picograms of DNA comes out to less than one pound of male contribution since the beginning of Homo sapiens 107 billion babies ago.

      And while birth seems like a separation, for us mammals it’s just a new form of attachment to our female parent. If your mother breast-fed you, as our species has done for nearly our entire existence, then you suckled from her all your water, protein, sugar, fats and even immune protection. She sampled your diseases by holding you close and kissing you, just as your father might have done; but unlike your father, she responded to your infections by making antibodies that she passed to you in breast milk.

      • likamarie says:

        Well, I have read many anthropology books. Before anyone knew what caused pregnancy (though they had their crazy myths about how it happened), everyone always knew who the mother was. But, in many cases, they could only figure that the man who shared the hearth was automatically considered the father, even without knowing for sure.

        Some tribal people believed that it was something to do with totems, and women usually had the weaker ones, or shall we say prey, like rabbit, doe, etc… men had predators, such as bear, lion, etc… and that the stronger totems could make the weaker ones submit, and thus allowed to bear children.

        Other peoples celebrated sex, both from the male and the female. Because it was something to be celebrated, those who were going to become adults were becoming men and women, they were assigned by a sexual mentor to “learn how to please their partner”… and got basic lessons by the older mentor of the opposite sex. With having multiple sex partners, who knows who the biological father is? Just the same, it was the one who shared the same hearth.

        I recommend reading the Clan of the Cave Bear series. Jean Auel is an excellent anthropologist who brings the ancient people into real life. Another good one, I was reading the 1972 version of the history of religion, from ancient to present, by this author, who has since updated information… I am hoping to be able to check out a copy from the library… http://www.amazon.com/History-Worlds-Religions-13th-Edition/dp/0205167977/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401155705&sr=8-1&keywords=history+of+world%27s+religions

        It really delves into the fact that some of the older religions were worshiped a Goddess, or the female form. It’s also interesting, in some of my other research, is that the first doctors were women. I’m not sure when it became a male dominated profession. Same with teachers.

      • On this very blog my collection of ‘women of war and science’ goes into some detail as to women being the first philosophers and holding positions in academia long before more famous women like Hypatia of Alexandria.
        The idea of worship of solely a male deity is a thing in its infancy by comparison to other religions that are still widely practiced today.
        In terms of determining the father, that is no doubt one reason why patriarchal religions are so insistent on controlling women, threatening them with murder should they go outside the ownership of their assigned male.

  3. blackmetalvalkyrie says:

    Great blog, glad I found it. However I don’t like how you use the word fat as if it is a bad thing. I am against sizeism. “fat, balding white-men”

    • Some of the vloggers I single out are in fact fat, balding, white men. This is called ‘drawing a picture’ for your readers, and it just so happens to be an accurate one. Would you rather I say something like, ‘over-weight, follicly-challenged, Caucasian-person’? George Carlin called this ‘soft language’, and I won’t have it watering down my imagery. Not for them. Not for you. Not for my fairy-god mother, her fat ass be damned to the depths of Hades. Okay? Cool! Glad you liked the blog! Its just too bad you didn’t have anything constructive to contribute to the comments section.

      • blackmetalvalkyrie says:

        Seems odd a self proclaimed feminist or at least someone defending the feminist struggle is defending sizeism. There is no such thing as a male feminist fyi. Feminism is the only political movement that prioritises women’s rights and needs above the mainstream (ie male domination). If you cannot do that, then don’t call yourself a feminist. Men can be allies to feminists, at best. Do a world a favour and stop pretending you are some anti-sexism god for pointing out the sexism that is so stark in the rants of Thuderfoot and TAA you would have to be deaf not to hear it. Have fun worshiping George Carlin. Funny how a quick comment pointing out bigotry on a quickly written post stating a fact that everyone with a brain already knows is not constructive, but your post offering no analysis or insight is any better. Keep on keepin on you male feminist warrior you! Allow me to hand you a cookie on your awe inspiring activism for women’s liberation from male violence.

      • No, no. You misunderstand. I take precisely no stance on this what so ever. I am merely insulting you personally. Allow me to elaborate:
        I do not care to shame people for their body-types any more than I care to ask for your permission before placing a label upon myself. Further, my response to your comment is self-contained — it needs no further contribution to the topic of the blog itself.
        So you see, any offense you may have taken was merely directed at you as an individual, not at any particular group; it is a retort to your off-hand comment. Glad you’ve enjoyed my colorful language. Though I’m a tad concerned as to why a topic ‘that everyone with a brain already knows’ is simultaneously praised by you as a ‘great blog’ only a single post ago.
        Huh. Seems you need to work on your consistency, comrade.
        But enough of this happily pedantic bullshit. For further inquiry, please see the below article. Its written exactly for your brand of exclusivity among feminist ranks.
        https://blogsofalek.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/the-petty/

        PS: I am all full up on cookies at the moment, what with all my interwebz white-knighting and mangina-ing being lavishly rewarded by the affection of virtual womenz the world around. Truly, my deeds be heroic and bold! Behold, and tremble!!1

  4. Diane Muckey says:

    Thank you for this. We , my male partner and I used to watch, thunderfoot et al and enjoyed till they started to whine about feminism..it was surprising hiw some atheists claim they are ignored or harrassed..yet have no problem projecting their vitriol on women..my partner was a male sole parent and knows well how single parents are treated..he was subjected in work situations that many women are..thank you for articulating how we felt…

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